Chapter B - Questions and Answers

Terrain Chart (August 2003)

The Terrain Chart implies that even armed, armoured vehicles with Truck-type movement (e.g., German Vehicle Note 71) never pay double Road cost, whether BU or not. However D2.16 and D5.2 both indicate that *all* BU AFVs must use the doubled rate. Which is correct?

The Chart should indicate that the road COT for BU AFV using Truck movement is 1 MP.

B.5: I just noticed this while reading B.5 in the new rulebook. It says: "All  rules pertaining to same-level LOS also apply to Continuous Slope LOS [EXC:  walls/hedges and AFV/wrecks (D9.4)] even though the latter term is not  mentioned, although Height Advantage is unaffected."

AFV/wrecks do not cause a Hindrance along a Continuous Slope and walls/hedges do not block LOS along one.

Is this a rule change? Didn't AFV Hindrances use to apply to Continuous  Slopes in ASLRBv1? If so, does anybody know why the

change?

This is more a clarification than a change, although I can't say I knew this to be the case 6 months ago.  My memory may be a little faulty here, but I think a close examination of the old Hillside Walls/Hedges rules would reveal this rule implicit therein.

B1.16 and Journal 3 article "First Do no Harm". (May 2001

In the article, ``First Do No Harm,'' p. 78 of J3, this statement:
 

"B1.16: Here we clarified that CE status is a DRM, not a TEM (so crews and passengers can receive the CE DRM in addition to TEM).''
 

appears to be in conflict w/D5.31, last sentence:
 

"The CE DRM is not cumulative with any positive TEM.''
 

Further, B1.16 appears to be an inapplicable case (with regard to CE status). The article also alludes to a CE DRM rule in the Index. Which  entry was intended by that reference is not clear, but the `rule' suggested in the article does not appear in the Index under DRM, CE, or CE DRM.

Q. Is D5.31 correct? If not, how should that last sentence read? Should any changes be made here or in the Index?
 
D5.31 is correct. No changes are needed to the rules or Index. I was way confused in the article. What we did change was to make it clear that the CE DRM is _not_ a TEM. That does not mean you can combine it with a TEM, however.

Rule B 6.42 Collapsing Bridge: When a bridge collapses, it is written "the entire bridge collapses with the elimination of all counters on and beneath it." Does this mean that a multihex bridge that collapses, has all its hexes destroyed with units on them (thus better destroyed by a vehicle's weight than with a set DC)?  

Just one hex.  (Rule is not clear.)

B9 (July, 2003)

If a German tank is in motion ADJACENT to a hedge and a russian tank moves ADJACENT on the opposite side of the hedge in mph then scores an immobilization on the German tank forcing a failed TC.  Does the now exited crew retain WA? or would the russian tank have the opportunity to claim it?

If the Germans had WA, they will retain it.

B9 (September 2003)

Board 24 (assume that hexside 24N2/N3 is a hillside wall; assume a wall exists at hexside 24F5/F6)

A 658 is at level 1 of hex 24N3. A 666 is in hex 24N1. Can the 658 claim the wall TEM vs a shot from the 666?

A 658 is on the bridge in 24F6. A 666 is in hex 24F4. Can the 658 claim the wall TEM vs the 666?

Yes to both, though neither 658 would be able to claim WA.

B9.1 (Sep 2003)

"The thick terrain depiction, as well as the hexside itself (inclusive of vertices), represents the wall/hedge and will affect any LOS through it ...."

Is it correct to conclude that *any* fire at a hedge/wall vertex coming from *outside that hex* (i.e., crossing no other hexside of that hex) must "cross the wall", no matter what angle it's coming from, even if the hedge/wall only exists along one hexside of the three meeting at that vertex?

(This is significant when attacking a bypassing unit where there is a hedge/wall at that vertex, assuming that the bypassing unit would otherwise qualify for Wall Advantage.)

I think I am answering your question when I say:

For units bypassing a wall/hedge hexside, that wall/hedge TEM would only apply if the LOS traced to the target vertex passes through a hex that shares that wall / hedge hexside with the target hex.

B9.323 (May 2003)

Can a unit behind bocage with WA prep fire and then immediately drop WA, in order to disappear from enemy LOS, before the enemy can Defensive Fire?

Yes, provided it has WA in the PFPh and there is in-hex TEM of at least +1 (B9.323).

(This answer from the ASL Mailing List, not Perry.)

Rule: B9.4
May a wall/hedge hexside with an \"obvious gap\" (but no road  depiction) be crossed without paying the extra movement cost?

May walls/hedges with \"obvious gaps\" (whether there is a road or not) be crossed by expending the additional movement cost for a wall/hedge if desired?

Yes to both.

Rule: B9.521
Using illustration after rule 9.54
If a unit in 11K7 has no WA (e.g. entered the hex when a unit in 11L6 claimed it), a unit in 11I6 has no LOS to it. Am I right?
Or, to rewrite the sentence under the illustration :"A unit in 11I6 can see into (but not through) J7 and K7, but only units that have WA"?

Correct

B 9.521 Bocage LOS (Feb 2004)

A Location with a Bocage hexside has no units with WA present within  it. Can that Location be seen (ie, "seen into") from a non-adjacent same-level unit across that Bocage hexside? Could an entrenchment within that Location be seen from a non-adjacent same-level unit across that Bocage hexside?

Yes to both.

B9.54 EX: Bocage: 2nd sentence: Replace "into (but not through)" with "units with Wall Advantage in", because only units with Wall Advantage can be seen  through a Bocage hexside from far away, correct?

That is certainly a good way to think of this situation.

B8.4, B8.612, B11.41: May a leader give his (unused) IPC to an MMC while  participating in these activities?

The first two (since the MMC's IPC is increased by the SMC), but not the latter since the SMC's CX IPC is zero.

Rule:B.6, B9.2, & B24.2
Question: Does a unit firing along a wall that is in the same hex as rubble have a clear LOS?

No; the wall does not negate the LOS obstruction of rubble. (Contrast that to the effect of a wall on the LOS Hindrance of a graveyard--B18.1).

B16.4 (July 2003)

Question #1: May Infantry advance into a Mudflat Location? (I'm thinking "yes" as the *base* cost to enter is only 2 MF, not all.) Infantry can NOT advance into a Marsh Location (B16.4).

Question #2: May Infantry Low Crawl into a Mudflat Location?  (Again, I'm thinking "yes" as the *base* cost to enter is only 2 MF, not all.) Infantry can NOT low crawl into a Marsh Location (B16.4).

Question #3: If Infantry move into a Mudflat Location from a *lower* level, is this a Minimum Move? (Here, I'm thinking "no" as the *base* cost to enter is only 2 MF, not all .... thus the cost to enter = 4 MF.) It's a Minimum Move for Infantry to enter a Marsh Location from a lower level (B16.4).

Yes. Yes. No.

At the end of the first sentence of B16.71 add: "; normal elevation-change/rout/advance rules apply in lieu of 16.4.". At the end of B16.72 add "and pay double Open Ground COT".

B20.8 and B6 - Bridges and Fords (Dec 2003)

If a bridge has been changed to a Ford, does the hex _still_ contain a road?

No.

B20.92

A sniper dr is a 1. The random direction DR places the SAN counter equidistant from infantry in crest status in a wadi and infantry in the open. B20.92 lists exceptions to crest entrenchment benefits as "indirect fire, OVR, and Direct Fire from any position that has LOS INTO that depression location". Does the +2 TEM for crest status apply in this case, thus forcing the sniper to attack the unit in open ground?

Crest TEM NA for Sniper.

A23 and B23.71:

Can a unit with a DC place it from ground level of a rowhouse to an ADJACENT ground level location across the rowhouse hexside?

Yes

Does the defender where the DC is placed have any shots at the placing unit (assuming the rowhouse bar blocks LOS between the two locations)?

Yes, unless the attacker is trying to breach the rowhouse wall.

If so, does the attacker have to declare which vertex he is placing the DC from?

Yes.

A23.6, B23.741 & B23.743 Factory TEM (August 2003)

If a unit in a Factory Throws a DC into an adjacent Rubble hex (not part of the Factory), is the attack on the throwing unit treated as coming from "inside" or "outside" the Factory for TEM purposes?

From outside.

What if the Rubble target hex *is* part of the Factory (B23.743)?

From inside.

B23.9221 (September 2003)

Does an AFV create a Breach along a Fortified Building hexside if it enters the fortified location through that hexside?

Yes.

Does the answer change if it Bogs or falls into the cellar?

No.

B23.922 and A5.5 (December 2001)

Does a good order infantry crew manning a artillery piece in a fortified building equal a squad in order to keep enemy MMCs from advancing into the building?

A crew and a Gun will not keep enemy units from advancing into a Fortified Building Location.

B24.31 WP hit

Q (in form of a proposition)
You don't have to hit a unit with SMOKE to affect it. You only have to hit a Location in the target hex to place it.

B24.31: ....All units (including friendly ones) except a non-CE, CT AFV in a Location with a WP counter must take a NMC when the WP is placed [EXC: non-moving units in Mph] in that Location (not when it drifts or they move into it) or when hit by WP on the Area Target Type [EXC: if the WP does not rise to that elevation (24.4)].

"All units"... "when the WP is placed in that Location" "OR when hit by WP"...

The rule even says "or when hit". So no real hit is needed. All you need to achieve is placement of WP and that can be done by simply having LOS to a Location in the target hex and then place it as per C8.52. Some units are not affected as given above: non CE CT AFV, non- moving units in the MPh, those that are in a WP hex, but so high that the WP doesn't reach them....

You still need to hit a hex in order to place WP, which requires LOS to _something_.

And since WP is placed in the ground-level (or base-level, whatever), only units in _that_ Location can be affected by WP that does not actually _hit_ them.

Subject: B3.5 & B28.1 Mines and Rubble

B3.5 says "Hidden mines [EXC: in rubble/debris] ... may not be placed in a paved road hex ...."

B28.1 says "... Minefields may not be placed in ... rubble ...."

What is the EXC in B3.5 referring to, if (as per B28.1) no mines can be placed in rubble?
 

Delete "rubble" in the EXC.

B23.71

A23 and B23.71: Can a unit with a DC place it from ground level of a rowhouse to an ADJACENT ground level location across the rowhouse hexside?

Yes.

Does the defender where the DC is placed have any shots at the placing unit (assuming the rowhouse bar blocks LOS between the two locations)?

Yes, unless the attacker is trying to breach the rowhouse wall.

If so, does the attacker have to declare which vertex he is placing the DC from?

Yes.

B25.6 and QRDC (Feb 2004)

On the QRDC, in the Original 12 Summary, 3rd line, there is a reference to "Building Collapse during Spreading Fire (B25.66)". The rule referenced is about a building(s) collapsing after rolling Gusts during the wind change.

Is the QRDC reference worded incorrectly?

I believe the B25.66 rule is under 25.6 SPREADING FIRE.

If not, can buildings locations collapse into rubble during the Flame Spread checks done in the Advancing Fire Phase?

No.

B27.1 Foxholes (March 2001)

During the APh, does a unit entering a Foxhole hex to go beneath the Foxhole counter ``pay one additional MF =separately= after payment of the COT to enter the hex,'' as in the MPh?

Yes.

Q: Does A10.531 mean that Concealed Infantry advancing, in the APh, into an OG hex to enter a Foxhole, could lose Concealment to an enemy unit with ``a hypothetical Defensive First Fire opportunity'' vs that advance?

Yes.
 

Q: During the APh, does a unit advancing into an OG Foxhole hex (and under the Foxhole counter) in an FFE get the TEM of the Foxhole, or the OG TEM, vs the FFE attack?

Open Ground

Q: During the APh, does a unit in an OG Foxhole hex in an FFE, advancing to a non-FFE hex, get attacked by the FFE before leaving the Foxhole hex?

Yes.

If so, does it get Open Ground TEM, or Foxhole TEM, vs that attack?

Open Ground

B27.41 Rout INTO a foxhole (Oct 2001)

A10.5, B27.41
A broken Infantry unit begins Its RtPh, able to Low Crawl, in the  Base Level of a hex with a capacity-available Foxhole, but outside  of that Foxhole. There are no Adjacent KEU. There may or may not be KEU with enough HA to reduce the Foxhole TEM to zero. The hex may or may not be Open Ground. The hex may or may not be under an FFE. The scenario may or may not be Night. The broken unit =is= within 6 MF of its nearest valid woods/ building rout target.

May the unit use Its RtPh to move INTO that Foxhole (and thus end Its RtPh in that same hex, Entrenched)?

No.

B27.1 and B27.5 Trenches and Foxholes (Jan 2004)

This reply came from Perry in response to a thread on the ASL mailing list that discussed placement of Trenches instead of Foxholes when a scenario said that a side could setup "Entrenched" or in "Entrenchments" in suitable terrain. Another suggestion was that a single squad could setup in a 3 squad foxhole in such a scenario.

Off the top of my head I don't know of any scenario where the phrase "may set up entrenched" is intended to include Trenches.

Since at least 1997 we have been trying to consistently include with that phrase a rules citation to B27.1, making it clear that foxholes are intended, not trenches. I don't think I have seen anyone seriously suggest that a lone squad can use this rule to create a 3-squad foxhole, but I have blacked out some of my ... memories.

B27.56 A-T Ditch MP Cost (August 2003)

The wording of this rule is that you must *always* pay the COT when entering or exiting an A-T Ditch, even when not changing Location.

E.G., an A-T Ditch in a brush hex.

Enter the hex from another hex, 2 MF (COT of brush).

Enter the A-T Ditch in that hex: 3 MF (2 + COT).

Total: 5 MF

Is this correct?

No. The 2MF are in addition to whatever COT may be appropriate for entering a new hex.

B28.1 Known Minefields on Roads (Feb 2003)

"Known minefields" are listed as an exception to the prohibition on placing minefields in paved roads (etc.). Does this mean that a Known A-P minefield may be placed in such locations? Is a Known A-P minefield cleared in the same manner as a normal A-P minefield, or the same as a Known A-T minefield?

No; delete "Known Minefields" from that EXC.

B28.41 (Oct 2001)

If Infantry moving as a stack enter a minefield hex, is the attack resolved as one IFT DR per =unit=, or as one IFT DR for the =stack=?

One per stack.

B30.44 (Nov 2001)

A19.12, B30.44

In a MPh, may friendly Infantry enter an enemy Pillbox solely-occupied by Disrupted enemy Infantry? Assume no non-Disrupted enemy in the Pillbox hex.

No.

B31.2 Steeples (Apr 2002)

Multi-hex building with no stairwell icon, but a steeple location. A unit is on Level 1 of the steeple hex -- must it move to ground level before moving into the steeple?

No, it moves directly to the steeple, and a unit on ground level moves
first to the Level 1 Location and then to the steeple.

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